Showing posts with label Estonian. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Estonian. Show all posts

Friday, November 30, 2007

Tongue-tied

A German guy called Berthold Forssman has had an essay published on Delfi debunking the myth that Estonian is a difficult language to learn.

After waffling on a bit - recounting situations I have found myself in, highlighting some of the trickier areas of grammar and vocabulary and, not unfoundedly, accusing the Estonians themselves of being part of the problem in how they deal with foreigners trying to speak their language - he makes this pertinent [paraphrased] point:

What is the use in promoting your own language as being horrendously difficult? Estonians are proud of their language and love it, and this has kept them from dying out and helped to maintain the independence of their country. I'm as happy about this as they are. But overegg the mystification and, to others, the language becomes completely intangible and unattainable, sapping them of any motivation to learn it.

The way I see it, there are no such things as 'easy' and 'difficult' languages. Learning a language is always hard work, and when you're starting out, some simply seem harder to get a handle on. That's where motivation is so important, and it's something everyone has to find within themselves.
So if someone was to ask me today whether Estonian is really as difficult as it is made out to be, I'd say: "No - what's difficult are the conditions we have to learn Estonian in."

Ironically, the article is concluded with the mysterious abbreviation "Tlk V. K." - referring to the fact, I assume, that the language still presents enough difficulties for Berthold that he had to have it translated into Estonian for publication. Pointing this out would be churlish of me if I didn't know quite so well how he feels.

Thursday, October 4, 2007

Hoist by their own petard?

This week's integration study has revealed that educated young Russian speakers who also speak Estonian are the labour market equivalent of hot cakes.

The study has shown that those with the best language skills are tertiary educated Russian speakers up to the age of 29 who have Estonian citizenship. Moreover, 70% of all Russian speakers in this age bracket who were surveyed could speak Estonian, compared to the 37% of Estonians in the same age group who had a handle on Russian.

"Young Russian speakers are in a better position," said sociologist and study author Iris Pettai. "Knowing both languages is a significant springboard for them." They make particularly good tellers, she remarked.

"The position of Estonian Russians is continually improving while the position of Estonian speakers grows steadily worse. Skills in several language give you an important head start in a country where Russian speakers make up a third of the population."

How long will it be, do you think, before Estonians stop complaining about Russians not learning their language and start complaining about the fact that they are? It will be ironic if they end up disenfranchising themselves in the name of integration.

Знать эстонский, оставаться русским, чувствовать себя домa

The Ministry of Education (and Research, not that they clearly did any in terms of marketing in this case) has come in for some well-deserved lampooning for the TV ad they have produced to air on Estonia's one and only channel designed for the Russian-speaking population to promote the transition in Russian-language schools to studies in Estonian.

The clip is just an embarrassment to watch. You don't even need to understand what they're saying to appreciate how lame it is. The slogan for the campaign, which forms the title of this post, means 'learn Estonian, stay Russian, feel at home' - a laudable idea in itself, but the execution... Click on the link below.

Saturday, September 15, 2007

Hold your tongue

Edited highlights of an article by Joel Alas in the indomitable Baltic Times:
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Estonians should be taught to be less hostile and more sympathetic to people learning their language, according to the chief architect of the nation’s new integration programme.

A week after Russian-speaking 10th grade children began a new set of Estonian-language literature classes, Ain Aaviksoo from the Praxis Centre for Policy Studies suggested Estonians should also be given classes in how to be more embracing of new speakers.

Aaviksoo, whose think-tank has been hired by the government to help formulate its integration policy for 2008-13, said Estonia should drop its defensive attitude toward its language, which is often perceived as a hostile barrier to those seeking to learn it. Instead, Aaviksoo said a more positive promotion of the language and a kinder attitude to new speakers would improve the situation.

“There are things we can’t change about history and our past issues, but we can change our attitudes toward our compatriots,” Aaviksoo said. “Our constitution says that one reason for the existence of the state is to preserve our language and culture. The problem is how to interpret that. If you adopt a protective approach, then in a way you create enemies of every outsider.”

Instead, Aaviksoo said the language could only survive if others are positively encouraged to learn it. “You can’t be hostile to outsiders: you have to be capable of embracing them. Many people who speak English know that it is spoken in different ways, so it is possible to understand someone who can’t speak it fluently. In Estonia it isn’t so. Many Russians tell me they feel more comfortable speaking Russian because too much attention is placed on them because they speak Estonian differently.”

Full text: http://www.baltictimes.com/news/articles/18768/
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I wonder how Joel's Estonian is coming along. As far as I am aware he is a fellow Aussie, so it would be interesting to find out the experiences he's had compared to my own.

For the first couple of years I was in Estonia, anyone who discovered I was making an effort to learn the language was suitably impressed and encouraging. Stammering attempts at ordering things in restaurants and cafes were met with patience, a smile and charitably simplified responses. Students I became increasingly able to help out in terms of vocabulary if they gave me the Estonian word were chuffed I was going to the trouble, especially off my own bat.

Fast-forward a couple of years and the feedback started to take on a different tone. Most reactions to the fact that I was still even in Estonia and learning Estonian were "why?" and "why bother?" respectively. My answer to the latter at least would always be the same - "because I live here" - although this would rarely satisfy the dumbfounded people who had put the question to me in the first place.

It would also invariably bring out the hipocrisy in them too: since I spoke English, "the world language", what was the point in studying Estonian beyond the charmingly perfunctory? When I parried with the argument that Russian-speakers speak one of the world's biggest languages too, so why should they bother if I needn't, their answer was always: "That's different." But it's no different at all. And nor is that an answer.

I'm one of these people who likes to learn at least a handful of pleasantries whenever I'm going somewhere new, whether it be a few hour's stopover in Kuala Lumpur, Oslo for the weekend or two weeks in Spain and Portugal. I'm also a languages person, which helps. But actually living somewhere is a different matter. I could and in many cases do get by perfectly well on English in Estonia, but that hasn't stopped me wanting to learn the national language. In fact how anyone can live in a foreign country and not try to learn its language, out of respect alone if nothing else, is beyond me.

But I will admit it is more difficult to do so these days than it was when I first arrived seven years ago. If your speech or accent gives away the fact that you're not Estonian and not a Russian-speaker, everyone automatically switches to English with you whether you want them to or not. I've had countless bizarre conversations where I insist on sticking to Estonian and the Estonian insists on sticking to English; I guess we both need the practice, so it works out in the end. Can't be of much help though to people just starting out with the language, and it doesn't change the fact that the attitude to speakers of English (and other languages) attempting Estonian remains starkly different to that of Russian-speakers doing the same.

Nothing's insurmountable though. The fact that my almost exclusively self-taught Estonian is good enough for me to be working as a translator after the first five years of my life here were largely spent in an English-language environment should be proof enough that anyone can do it. I would certainly advocate them trying. You get to know so much more about a country and its people when you can view things through their language.